fo ma rd forward but it is decent steps forward but it is early, it is 2am, we have a fair amount of information coming in but by no means is this the complete picture but based on where we are at, let s get the inside of a couple of different people, jo tanner who used to work for borisjohnson, thanks forjoining us, and shawn kemp, who was one of the liberal democrats s political advisers during that coalition period. sean, from what you have seen so far, do you think this is some kind of concrete return for the lib dems? it is looking that way. they came in thinking the 2019th set of results in these same wards was a great result for them. it showed inaudible was making a comeback and what happened after that. i think if they make gains again from that said the results and keep showing momentum, it s going to be great for them because what they are really looking at here is how they set up for the