Couple of decades where we can protect ukraine but russia is one thing integrated into europe. but he s in his late 60s, david miliband. he s not going anywhere any time soon or giving up any time soon. yeah, i think there s one overriding question which is whether or not dispensation after 2014 with crimea under western control, whether that holds and whether russia succeeds in claiming more territory in the eastern south or is pushed back. in thinking about that, there s a couple of important things. one, one of the lessons of the last 30 years has been an underestimate of the ukrainians themselves. they are center stage in this and the fist choice is for them, not the west. if they want to fight for their country, that s their choice.
yeah, i think there s one overriding question which is whether or not dispensation after 2014 with crimea under western control, whether that holds and whether russia succeeds in claiming more territory in the eastern south or is pushed back. in thinking about that, there s a couple of important things. one, one of the lessons of the last 30 years has been an underestimate of the ukrainians themselves. they are center stage in this and the fist choice is for them, not the west. if they want to fight for their country, that s their choice. secondly, i do think we have to understand that at stake here is at one hand the world of anarchy because that is what is unleashed in mariupol and elsewhere, versus some kind of rules, some kind of order and that s why the framing i think the west should be adopting is not democracy versus autocracy but rules versus anarchy. that s a fundamental part of this. thirdly, i think ann marie is
Little bit of realignment in terms of who the caucusgoer is this time around. tell me this, how many new caucus goers made it into your you ve got a very strong way of deciding who is a cauc caucusgoer and who s not. how many new folks made it through your screening? relatively few. definitely small minority of who we have there. for now. again, this is early and at this stage in 2008 it also looked like a relatively small part. tell me this. what about this idea of, how engaged were these folks? how did you measure engagement? how many of them felt as if it they had already seen a candidate or already been following the race or listened to a speech or things like it that? well, i think the way that we would take a look at that, chuck, would be that only 14% were saying they did not yet have a fist choice. now, even though that s a vvolae number, you look at somebody