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Transcripts For MSNBCW Alex 20240704

Election detailed a new trump indictment. And the detroit news, donald trump made knowingly false claim about michigan election indictment. The milwaukee journal sentinel, wisconsin Fake Electors Scheme is at the center of donald trump indictment. The philadelphia inquirer, what to know about the pennsylvania Fake Electors mentioned in trumps third indictment. The criminal conspiracy alleged in this new indictment of donald trump had the biggest and gravest National Ambitions to hold on to the presidency against the will of the voters. But the conspiracy itself played out in localities across the country, in what we now call the fake elector scheme, the scheme in which republican electors in states that joe biden won signed their names to forged documents pretending that it was actually donald trump who won the president ial election in those states. At the time, as it was actually playing out in december of 2020, it mostly looked like sort of sad theatrics from a bunch of protrump dea

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Transcripts For MSNBCW Alex 20240704

Journalconstitution, efforts to overturn Georgia Election detailed in new trump indictment. And the news, he made knowing late false claims about michigan election indictments. The milwaukee journal sent a wisconsin Fake Electors Scheme at the center of donald trump indictment. The philadelphia inquirer, what to know about the pennsylvania Fake Electors mentioned in trumps third indictment. The criminal conspiracy alleged in this new indictment of donald trump had the biggest and gravest National Ambitions to hold on to the presidency against the will of the voters. The conspiracy itself played out in localities across the country, in what we now call the fake elector scheme. A scheme in which republican electors in states that joe biden won, signed their names to forged documents pretending that it was actually donald trump who won the president ial election in the states. At the time, as it was actually playing out in december of 2020, it mostly looked like sort of sad theatrical fro

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:09:00

were like, that is fraught in terms of a criminal case. they avoided all of that. one of the things when i was reading this, was an eye towards those kinds of decisions, keeping those very focused on conduct, not buying into a lot of those legal issues, knowing where the courts have been solid, where that courts have raised issues in avoiding all of that. i completely agree that this is really well thought through. it did not stop the wall street journal, the national review, people saying, oh, this violates their first amendment. just to be clear, that s wrong, it will not prevail in court. the first amendment doesn t make it legal to i mean, the first amendment makes it legal to speak. it does not make it legal to take actions that are illegal. you can say i want to rob a bank, but if you don t do anything about it, that is fine. if you go in and we agree, we talk about it, then do it. we were robbing a bank, it s

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:15:00

there will be obviously enough time to understand the issues, et cetera. it is fair to say that while it might not be for years, but it could be a fair amount of time. by the way, it doesn t mean that if the judge sentences somebody to jail, then they would be out pending appeal. that s an issue with the district judge can decide on. and that s an important thing to be decided. potentially down the road, not going to put the cart before the horse. andrew weissmann, i ve 1000 think there was a talk to you about. thank you as always for your time. we have a lot this evening, including an interview with the top prosecutor in one of the states at the center of trump s 2020 elections games. michigan attorney general dana nessel. she is making some criminal indictments of her own. first, a state level plot to swing the 2020 election that you probably haven t heard of, but oh man. it is wild. we ll bring you the details, next. details, next you can t leave without cuddles.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:09:00

people, including myself, they were like, that is fraud in terms of a criminal case. they avoided all of that. one of the things we were reading this, and i towards those kinds of decisions, keeping those very focused on conduct, not buying into a lot of those legal issues, knowing where the courts have been solid, where that courts have raised issues in avoiding all of that. i completely agree that this is really well thought through. it did not stop the wall street journal, the national review, people saying, oh, this violates their first amendment. just to be clear, that s wrong, it will not prevail in court. the first amendment doesn t make it legal to i mean, the first amendment makes it illegal to speak. it does not make it illegal to take actions that are illegal. you can say i want to rob a bank, but if you don t do anything about, or that is fine. if you go in and we agree, we talk about it, then do it.

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