once roe versus wade was abolished, would instantly make abortion more or less illegal in their states. and that would mean that women seeking an abortion would have to travel to another state, to an abortion friendly state, in order to terminate their pregnancy. now, we have already seenin pregnancy. now, we have already seen in texas, which passed a very tough abortion laws back in september of last year, women there have, in many cases, had to travel to neighbouring 0klahoma cases, had to travel to neighbouring oklahoma in order to have an abortion, now 0klahoma has decided to introduce similarly strict laws of its own. so this is the sort of its own. so this is the sort of problem that is going to confront women seeking an abortion in this country if, indeed, this remains the opinion of the court. and they should point out that we were expecting an opinion on roe
might benefit? might benefit? think you can read it either might benefit? think you can read it either way. might benefit? think you can read it either way. some - might benefit? think you can read it either way. some are | read it either way. some are speculating it was potentially a cloak of one of the liberal justices and this was to have shock value and encourage one of the wavering conservative justices to move back from the brink, an alternative would be it is one of the conservative justices g loads and this is to soften the blow in a way to make it less of a shock when the court actually announces this opinion. because it is so unprecedented, it is really hard to know. hard to know. what is interesting hard to know. what is interesting from - hard to know. what is interesting from the l hard to know. what is i interesting from the way hard to know. what is - interesting from the way you phrase that, because david willis was explaining, you know, it is an opinion, it cou
are still five votes to overturn roe, we imagine there will be an internal debate within the court about what happens next, it is unclear whether this revelation or the sleep will change anything. i m inclined to think that it won t. it likely will be waiting to see what happens until 8 june waiting to see what happens until8june and in waiting to see what happens until 8june and in latejune we will see the supreme court overturn roe in some shape or form, even if it is different. it is one of the great polarising issues of modern american history and politics, i suppose, and society. do you have any idea as to. isn t that clear across all states as to which way they fall, again, we understand that there are a good number that have laws ready to trigger if roe versus wade is collapsed. lilo. ready to trigger if roe versus wade is collapsed. wade is collapsed. no, it s not. wade is collapsed. no, it s not- even wade is collapsed. no, it s not. even among - wade is collapsed. no, it s
listening its veracity as much as might otherwise be the case is because it s absolutely in keeping with what we did after we heard the oral argument in this case in december, which is to say that this is an opinion explicitly overruling roe and framing the decision to do that as a matter of sensible and framing, ithink, as a matter of sensible and framing, i think, framing things ina framing, i think, framing things in a way that is likely to deepen the dibaba divide about abortion in the united states more. it is not an opinion it seems to be trying to manage backlash, it seems to be indifferent to the prospect of backlash. of backlash. what is the process of backlash. what is the process now, of backlash. what is the process now, what - of backlash. what is the process now, what does of backlash. what is the - process now, what does this go from here? process now, what does this go from here? well, we don t know exactly when from here? well, we don t know exactly when opi
versus wade within the next couple of months, the next eight weeks, and this is not, of course, the final opinion of the court. of course, the final opinion of the court- the court. david willis their sellin: the court. david willis their spelling out the court. david willis their spelling out the the court. david willis their spelling out the situation . the court. david willis their| spelling out the situation as we understand it now. i m joined now by mary ziegler, a law professor at florida state university and author of abortion and the law in america: roe v wade to the present. so for another chapter in this long running saga. can ijust up long running saga. can ijust up with the leak itself stop what you make of it? it’s what you make of it? it s really extraordinary. - what you make of it? it s really extraordinary. i ve never heard or seen anything like this and i think it is testament to not only how extraordinary what s happening with abortion is, but also broader cha