For you and sara, but where in the job description for chief of staff does it say help a sitting president try to overturn an election? no, but the fine print footnote. i looked in the constitution. it doesn t say that. sara was did you see that? that is sort of nicely underscoring why this is a difficult argument. both are circular. what meadows and trump will say, i pled not guilty. i m entitled to the presumption of innocence at this point and claim i m acting within the scope of my job, therefore i should be removed. fani willis will say i charged you with crimes therefore you were committing crimes therefore you don t get to get removed so that s the argument here. sara, i m curious. moving to another case but in the documents case you re seeing cooperation happening by someone who changed attorneys and decided to get a defense that is not paid for by donald trump and whoever else is paying for those attorneys that are linked to trump. do you see more of this happe