News sites like the new york times. no one s going to be able to challenge the military from a pure boots on ground or straight warfare-to-warfare type situation. but what countries can do is impact us from more of an information side of the house, what we do electronically. reporter: and i should mention none of this is a surprise to washington. the department of homeland security and the pentagon have committed billions of dollars to commit to fighting cyber terrorism. and a hacker claiming he s a leader in the syrian electronic army told me they ve already tested out these types of infrastructure hacks in other countries. pretty scary stuff. don? lori, thank you very much for that. in a moment, we ll go a lot deep on this particular subject. and next, we ll get a look from the inside. my guest is a former member of the national security agency. so how real are these threats? that s next. ur price tool? i guess you can tell them how much you want to pay and it gives you a ra