Remarkable in this case, nicole, this is like an american city. this campus. a lot of people. a lot of people can get very panicked very quickly. that didn t appear to happen here, which is a testament to not only authorities on the scene but the people involved in that scene. what did you think of that? you know that is a testament to those involved on the scene. i m not sure what training that they do at the university of north carolina. chris swecker has done a lot of work with the university of north carolina in securing these schools and universities. that matters a lot. so i think the key is to remain calm. if you re ever in a tragic situation, a dangerous situation, it s so easy to get frantic and it s scary, terrifying, neil. i can t explain how terrifying it is. the key is to stay calm. run, hide, fight. law enforcement, they were there. they are there. there s a large law enforcement
Happened. of course, there s a lot that we can t confirm right now. we re expressing a press conference soon to get more details about what transpired here since 1:00 today. neil: did any of the students with whom you talked hear shots earlier on? just one. a gunshot. they said they heard what sounded like a loud bang. when you hear something like that, your first instinct isn t to think gun shots. so these kids didn t know exactly what was going on. we are hoping to speak with more students that were close tore the actual area behind me where this incident happened a couple hours ago. neil: final question. i know you re swamped here. i m curious whether any of them knew of the alleged shooter or of the alleged shooter or information on a his background what he was up to, other kids what they were saying. no one that i ve spoken with
Tragedies that you and i have chatted about, students come up with their hands in the air or, you know, everyone i understand is treated as a potential suspect. so they re super careful about that. this the students calmly left facilities, dorms, class halls and the like. do you think at the time that that was happening, authorities had this guy? i don t think they had him at the time that they had the one individual. they had the description on the local communications, the radios within inside. that was put out and they grabbed this individual, checked his i.d. you can still have a phony i.d. they still have to go through it. at that point they knew who they were looking for. they had too make sure this individual is not that person. it s done time and time again, neil. how can you handcuff somebody if they re not under arrest?
You can understand, this is the protocol. put somebody over there, question them, get their name. they re careful saying in is not the person we re looking for. at that point they had a rhyme or reason to what happened and they had to find this individual. neil: thanks. let s go to a reporter right now. she s on the scene at chapel hill. how are things there right now, cassie? well, within the last 30 minutes, things have calmed down since when the shelter in place was in effect. we ve seen dozens of students come out. many said that they were in a bathroom hunkered down not knowing what was going on. they said they re going to their dorms. classes are cancelled the rest of the day here. a lot of people trying to process what happened.
Department and reviewed several incidents on campus, one similar to this one. i know the place inside out. i ll tell you based on a their behavior, they must have had a very intense door-to-door, room-to-room-type situation and didn t want to put any information out there that would have been helpful to this person if he had any access to the media. neil: if he s in custody, i can understand waiting and holding off on an all clear until you search the area, swept the area for any type of devices and the like or accomplices. do we know anything? nothing coming out on that. i think they would be very methodical going about that process. they want to make sure there s no bombs or nothing dangerous that he left behind. they also want to make sure that they don t lose any witnesses. i ve seen this before. witnesses, you let them go and