Releasing k-12 students if that suspect was still an t large. we re awaiting confirmation and also of any injuries or anything else in this incident, neil. so it s an unfolding situation. it has been a terrifying one obviously for the 30,000 or so undergraduate and graduate students on the campus of u.n.c. and the thousands more students in the chapel hill k-12 system. it appears that he may be approaching the end of what is a terrifying few hours. i want to mention, in the case of the k-12 students, this was their first day back at school. within hours of arriving on their campuses in the chapel hill area, they were on lockdown, a terrible way for the school year to start. the students at u.n.c. had just been back for a couple of weeks, neil. neil: amazing. maybe you can help me. where did this start? we re told it was in a lab or
The fact that we haven t seen activity in an around that emergency room and believe me, we would know it if there was; that that s a promising sign, if you will. neil: got it. chris, thanks so much. don t wander too far. may want to tap your fine brain again. ted williams, former d.c. homicide detective, fox news contributor. this is a big campus. 20,000 undergraduate students. 12,000 graduate students. a couple thousand more that service the facility and beyond. so it s a large area. concentrated area. the shooter targeted presumably a specific area. this chemistry building, lab center what have you. i m not throwing much at you to go on, ted. what do you make of it? well, you know, neil, what i glean initially is that
neil: seems one of the quickest storms to go from a tropical storm to a category one, soon after that a category three, maybe cat three/four, a fouled by these warm gulf waters, right? yes, sir. we saw it last year with hurricane ian form in the tropic and hit southwest florida as a category four. we saw a similar path. hurricane michael. ended up being a cat 5 that hit panama city. once it forms in the gulf, it s dangerous. it s unbelievable how quick they can develop. neil: the nine counties in question where you re recommending people clear out, how far north does that extend? that extends all the way north to levy county in the big bend. when florida starts to bend, that s levy county. they have evacuation order
There s. neil: so following this storm, is it possible as it moves north, moving at a quick pace, could it jump the state in to the atlantic? what does history tell you? yeah, there s nothing to suggest that it will miss florida. everything that we re seeing, we think it s coming for florida. it s a fast-moving storm. less rain, less flooding, less susstained winds. still a major hurricane but it won t be sitting on top of us. passing quickly will have benefits. we don t see this not impacting florida at all. neil: as far down as the keys or southern florida. doesn t seem to be in that general direction. what do you tell the folks in that neck of the woods? it s outside of this nine county re-june that you spoke of. we could wake up tomorrow and be different. the cone could be shifted to the east and the south. we saw it last year with
Accomplices at all, that he left devices that could have harmed those students on the campus, they clearly wouldn t have given the all clear. law enforcement officers know a great deal more than we are able to report here. but i am encouraged by what you represented that around the 5:00 area, around that time, they re going to have a presser where they can give us some information as to what took place on the campus that led to the heavy presence of police all over the police. neil: yeah there were a lot of them. thanks, ted williams. joe cardinale joins us. the former lieutenant. police will be having a presser in 40 minutes from now. what to you want to hear? what do you think they ll say to put a bow on this?