We see these crowds if not for the charges of dr. ford the last few weeks and how it s turned the whole process around? by your argument, you re saying we probably would just because of the crucial nature of this swing vote, right? i think the crowds are a reflection of the fact that the supreme court is more important than it ought to be in our constitutional system and has taken on a kind of a superlegislature role. if we think about it if all we wanted were legal craftsmen looking at precedence and applying them to facts, there wouldn t be any reason for a single person to be out there much less a crowd. what they expect is that the crowd and fueuhr fervency of the crowd. neil: and do you think that looking back, looking high school back that that s been established? no, i don t think it s established for kavanaugh. i think it would be particularly
joan, do you have a theory? i think trump wanted to shake hands at the end. i think he thought he had a good close last night, and i think he came on not so great, but at the end of this second debate, he knew how to debate a lot better. i think that s why he was feeling better about shake hands. i agree. and i will, i never i don t think i ve ever said anything nice about him on your show, chris, but i will say, if he campaigned like that man we saw in the last minute who gave her credit for her strength, if he could treat her as an equal and campaign eye to eye with her and say, we disagree, he would be running a much better campaign and it would be a lot closer, but he hasn t. but that last moment was impressive and the hand shake was all about cementing that feeling. joan, you re a fighter. i am. it s true. everybody ligkes being a fighter. steve s a fighter. thank you so much, joan walsh. a rare moment of common ground. even steve is silenced in his fervency. i
Those issues, the people who are anti-abortion believe it so fervently that their enthusiasm to vote anti-abortion, to vote on those issues, will outweigh the squishy moderate people who are maybe pro-choice or maybe don t care very much, but certainly aren t as motivated to vote on those issues as the anti-abortion republican base. that s been the calculation on this for a generation. but look at what just happened in virginia. one you have over five voter who is turned out this in election said that abortion was the most important issue driving their vote. but, look how they voted. a large majority of those voters motivated by the choice issue didn t vote for the anti-abortion guy. they voted for the pro-choice guy. because it turns out, hey, wow, there can be fervency on both sides of this issue. that changes the calculation that has been static for the republicans for a generation. fascinating. and so, yeah, elections have consequences.
Fervently that their enthusiasm to vote anti-abortion, to vote on those issues, will outweigh the squishy moderate people who are maybe pro-choice or maybe don t care very much, but certainly aren t as motivated to vote on those issues as the anti-abortion republican base. that s been the calculation on this for a generation. but look at what just happened in virginia. one you have over five voter who is turned out this in election said that abortion was the most important issue driving their vote. but, look how they voted. a large majority of those voters motivated by the choice issue didn t vote for the anti-abortion guy. they voted for the pro-choice guy. because it turns out, hey, wow, there can be fervency on both sides of this issue. that changes the calculation that has been static for the republicans for a generation. fascinating.
Struggle every time out. i think right now the sense of mission and fervency on the right as represented by somebody like ted cruz is fiery, is attractive to their base in a way that i m not sure all the time that president obama s is to the base of progressives and the democratic party. i agree. so cruz is operating cruz is fighting on the other team s turf at this point. yeah. but i tell you, real quick here david. i want you to finish up. if you re a minority in this country, you can hear cruz. if you have doubts like a lot of people do about their religion, if you have any kind of secular attitudes or if you have any liberal progressive thoughts or you re realistic about the need for social security, medicare, and civil rights don t you see this guy is the real enemy? somebody that could really be dangerous. it all depends on how big the other side is, the group he s playing to. his father believes in dominion christianity.