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Transcripts for CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20240604 04:14:00

Tactically. judge nancy gernter, back in the case of georgia, what do you make of the move by jeffrey clark or mark meadows to move this to federal court? it s a move they had to make and it is a move that they they are entitled to try to make. the question is, this is a removal where federal officials, arguably carrying out federal policies, saying, they can t get a fair trial in state court, and they had federal defenses, immunity from these prosecutions. the issue here is going to be weather because this all took place while meadows was chief of staff, that that somehow inoculates it from state charges, or whether or not the judge is going to say, wait a minute wait a minute, what they were doing was not carrying out federal policies. they were carrying out trump s campaign policies. they were not dealing with the presidents official duties, which might have to do with the integrity of elections. the president has no official duties with respect to the electoral college. t

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 14:09:00

Federal judge makes a ruling. so no, i don t think he s going to win that, and i also don t think he s going to win the removal at all. the federal removal statute is about when federal employees are doing federal work, like classically like let s say an fbi agent is doing an arrest, and the state decides, oh, we don t like the way you did that arrest, and so we re going to sue you in state court. the fbi can say i was doing i was executing a warrant, that s my legal job. that s what i was supposed to be doing and it gets removed and dismissed. this is a different situation. meadows job was not to run state elections in georgia. his job was not to run a coup in georgia. his job was not to pressure the secretary of state to make up and find votes that were not there. so i do not think he will be successful in the removal and moreover, i don t think he ll be successful right away in

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Transcripts for MSNBC Ana Cabrera Reports 20240604 14:08:00

Last night at bedminster, donald trump took part in a fundraiser for a group helping fund legal counsel for january 6th defendants. those defendants are not these individuals here in georgia who have been charged but instead those who were charged with being on the grounds at the capitol. for donald trump this is a concerted effort to defend those perhaps not financially defend but at least defend those others who have also been charged around the events of january 6th. it sounds like donald trump is still trying to make this a team sport. meadows wants this stay as he s awaiting a decision from a separate judge. he s also moved to have the case dismissed entirely, the case out of georgia citing presidential immunity. are either of these moves likely to go anywhere? well, first, the issue on whether or not he should have to go ahead and be arrested, the federal removal statute really addresses that. it says that the federal case should continue to go forward. i mean, the state ca

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