ex-president it all but ensures that special counsel jack smith will hear from the key witness who none of the other investigations into the trump cou plot not the fulton county d.a. has ever heard from under oath we re, of course, talking about mike pence a ruling handed down wednesday night by a federal appeals court rejects an emergency request by trump to block mike pence s testimony. new york times reports this, quote, the 11th hour ruling by the u.s. court of appeals for the district of colombia paves the way for mr. pence to appear before the federal grand jury as early as this week the ex-president has a few legal options left including an appeal to the supreme court but as nbc news reports, quote, in previous instances, where appeals sent senior aides must testify, his legal team has opted no the to fight the decision further and those witnesses have quickly appeared before the grand jury and trump s argument that executive privilege prevents pence or any of his ai
The president of the senate. and it s an interesting question as to whether or not he was really forthcoming did he for instance try to protect conversations he might have had with specific senators while he was presiding over the senate and those are the sorts of issues that could make him if you re looking at a trial down the road i think i m getting miles ahead of myself here, but if there s a trial where mike pence is going to testify against donald trump, which seems almost like an impossible fantasy land specter here, but if that happens he s got to be credible, he s got to be truthful, he s got to be believable if he s not, your entire case could crumble on your testimony alone. what do we know about jack smith today that we didn t know yesterday? well, one of the things we know what mike was talk about before, the world of difference between potentially prosecuting a sitting president versus an ex-president