Mudd. it s great to have you both here for a conversation that could not be more important. phil, let s just start with you. what s your reaction to zelenskyy s warning here. . look, if you re sitting in the white house, even if you consider a 1% less chance that putin would use a nuclear tactical weapon, you cannot sit in front of the president and say we re not considering those options. mr. president, with he didn t think about the implications. when you are thinking about the implications it is not just what does the u.s. do. how do we talk to the europeans. how do we prepare militarily for a response. what is a low end response, what is a eye end response, what is the humanitarian response, what are second-level consequences you to think in terms of advising the president but also the complications. you can t do it on the fly. i was just going to say you have to be thinking what could the military target be? putin wouldn t use a tactical