election officials, and it s it now spreading in so many different ways at the local level that that is part of the reporting that we had on this program yesterday. i think the simple answer is yes. there have been studies done of the demographics of the insurrectionist and the current thinking among americans. not surprisingly many of those that stormed the capital a year ago were motivated by the replacement, that somehow people of color are replacing white people. and there are polls out just recently that some 30% to 34% of americans would be prepared to resort to violence to do what they believe is necessary to somehow save our country. and so i wor they extremist behavior, extremist thinking, is
the clues were all there, actually, that it had the potential to get as huge as it s become. john ronson is no stranger to bizarre stories. an author and film-maker, he s covered secret military programs, psychopaths and brain control. extremism led him to the world of extremist thinking. i thought they would have things in common. they all believed there was a shadowy cabal in the world. it s a very clear hoax that, of course, flunlsed the nazis nuanced white supremacists today. john wanted to learn more how these things were spreading in fringe groups on the right and discovered a fan base determined to expose the threat of a new
premature. they have 12 pipe bombs or ied devices. hundreds of tools that could construct ieds and pipe bombs. 2500 plus .223 rounds. several hundred .22 long rifle rounds in the house. enough to do so much more carnage and they were not successful. where is their training? where is their guidance for some political ideology. i get that it is consistent tactically. but the psychological of why they did it the way they did it remains a mystery. they left and tried to go home and dropped off their baby. you don t see this. and we had people, the millers just last year who killed copped in lakers and went on a spree. extremist thinking can be manifested in a lot of ways.
that even a sacred goal can never be achieved by following an evil or criminal path. they are leading towards hell fire. reporter: the question is whether he will have credibility on the street. some muslim leaders are warning that government outreach programs to battle extremism aren t working. i can t see it. i can t see it where, you know, it s stopped or there s been they have stopped somebody from doing this kind of work. reporter: others say it won t work to just try to shoot down extremist thinking. we need to have that he know gaugement with them and understand exactly what their thinking is for us to be able to deal with these issues. reporter: and does a fatwa stand a chance in the face of this? ra