might try to corrupt the election result or try to steal it. you describe the different situations to prepare for. we predicted every maneuver except one. the unleashing of mob violence to intimidate the vice president in congress. and stop the vote. for trump to intervene with military force. to put down the uprising he helped to organize. hindsight is 2020. if if you had the thing you beat yourself up for is not seeing that coming. had you been act to predict that as a potential out come, is there something that could have been done proactively to stop it? we just spent countless hours figuring out every possible parliamentary maneuver and counter maneuver. if vice president pence in fact decided to declare the extra constitutional lawless powers to
the popular vote. then he tried to intimidate state election officials like brad and find me 11,000 votes. ultimately it came down to vice president mike pence. he was the key actor when we approached january 6th. and you knew that mike pence was could possibly be the weak link in that the electoral count act is a little is a little squishy here and so what was it what is it about the electoral count act that was most concerning to you? yes. well, here was the plan with mike pence. they wanted him to declare totally extra legal, extra constitutional lawless powers to unilaterally reject electoral college votes that had been cast by the states and brought
hindsight is 2020. if if you had the thing you beat yourself up for is not seeing that coming. had you been act to predict that as a potential out come, is there something that could have been done proactively to stop it? we just spent countless hours figuring out every possible parliamentary maneuver and countermaneuver, if vice president pence, in fact, decided to declare the extra constitutional lawless powers to reject and rebuff the college votes. if the gop pursued their objections to particular states or states to walk out. we didn t try to predict every possible parliamentary maneuver, but of course being democrats and liberal-minded people, we were thinking completely within the context of the constitution and legal system. and that s why i quote some of the right wings favorite philosophers. like carl-h schmidt who said
possible parliamentary maneuver and counter maneuver, if vice president pence tried to clear these extra constitutional lawless powers to reject in rebuffed electoral college votes. if the gop pursue their objections we had tried to predict every possible parliamentary maneuver. of course, being democrats, and being liberal minded people, we were thinking within the context of the constitutional and legal system. that s why i quote some of the right-wing s favorite philosophers, like carl schmidt, saying sovereign is he who controls the exception. on january 6th, we moved outside of the rule of law, into this twilight land of the exception, where they were talking about invoking the insurrection act. they were making things up about the electoral count act,
0 preserve his communications related to the january 6th attack on the capital, including his communications with former president trump, and others at the trump white house. they are asking him to come in for a transcribed interview, asking him to commit a transcri interviewed. they are not subpoenaing him, nor are they raising that prospect, of course, that kind of prospect looms in an investigation in which lots of other people have been subpoenaed. in this letter to the cable news host, they released a series of his texts. his communications with trump white house chief of staff mark meadows in particular. the reason they have released those texts it appears is to make the case both to him and the public. that he is an important fact witness for the investigation. and they need to ask him asks about what he knows. he may know stuff other people don t. now the tv host in question is a man named sean hannitity. he s a prime time week night host at the fox news channel. and regardless