If somebody was engaged in that they have nothing to fear from the january 6 committee or anything else. that mitt romney is now such an outlier in the party, a man that was the nominee for the party is extraordinary. bill cassidy speaking out against the censure of cheney and kinzinger. it is stunning. stunning and sad. we have gone from, you know, cowardice to depravity really in the republican party in the rnc. it is horrific. george conway, i appreciate you think with us as always. thank you, anderson. coming up new exclusive cnn reporting establishing what one january 6 figure has been reluctant to pin down. when did congressman jim jordan speak with the former president