it is going to be a huge headache for the republican party going forward and a reckoning coming because there are two parties within that party. there is the authoritarian populous wing and the establishment mainstream wing of the party. and bannon is very much going against the establishment mainstream. right. you talk about his alignment with the alt-right. where could his mission lead as far as what this republican party could look like. well, very indicative example of this was in the alabama primary. you had luther strange, supported by trump, and more of the establishment republicans against roy moore, roy moore has said some abhorrent things in the past, he was basically banned from the bench for not respecting rule of law and respecting separation of church and state. he said that muslims should not be allowed to serve in congress. so, you know, that was who bannon backed. now, roy moore won. there is an obvious potency to the fact that the bannon wing of the party is alive
he was supposed to be the big money establishment inevitable candidate on the republican side. can he come back from this? well, money can t buy a wave. we will find out pretty soon, they will spend some money but doesn t seem to have improved his numbers that much. it s hard to stop a wave. right now, certainly with the republican party s anti-establishment wave, i think we are seeing some of the same elements on the democratic side. so both of you are such smart strategists, if you had to look down the road, if it s not going to be donald trump or ben carson, who is the republican that s going to rise to the top? well, look, i m a john kasich guy. i make no apologies for that. i think he would be a great candidate and a great president. but you have to look at rubio who is well positioned. ted cruz is pretty well positioned to pick up the pieces should trump crumble and should carson crumble at the end. tad? i think tom s right. i think if one of those establishment mainstr
admit you want her in this field, howard. oh, yes, i do. listen, there s a difference there s a difference between what any journalist would have fun covering and what would necessarily be good for the country, okay. we ll leave it at that. let s take a look at what fred barnes has to say. he s a smart guy. i think we need to wait until september and see if the field we have is inspiring republicans or not. and if not, then there might be pressure, enormous pressure, he writes on others to jump. and he mentions chris christie, jeb bush, paul ryan, and i think there s widespread sentiment that people want to see other candidates. that s a question, howard, as a journalist, do you have a sense they re looking at this field as sort of the spring list. but there s going to be a fall list. yeah, i think that s possible. and i think fred barnes is as good an authority on what is acceptable within the conservative, you know, establishment mainstream as there is. and fred doesn t l
that s a question, howard, as a journalist, do you have a sense they re looking at this field as sort of the spring list. but there s going to be a fall list. yeah, i think that s possible. and i think fred barnes is as good an authority on what is acceptable within the conservative, you know, establishment mainstream as there is. and fred doesn t like what he sees so far and he wants to look for other players later on. you know, the conservators are going to have to look for somebody they can sell to those independent voters as you were saying, chris, and as ron was saying. and a lot of these characters for various reasons won t do it. michelle bauchmann, how strong she could be in iowa. there s no way she could be a general election candidate. there s just no way, just no way, no way. let me ask go ahead, i m sorry, ron. let me ask you guys. if romney or pawlenty, one of the more standard republicans doesn t get traction in the early primaries, do you think that the republi