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and san antonio people are saying. that she did not show up for appearances. that she went to other paid appearances instead of going to the ones that her pageant was mandating. bill: you say she misbehaved in other ways and blaming it on a bogus weight issue. quite possibly. let me be clear. the miss america organization would never boot anybody for a weight issue. bill: okay. now, let s assume that miss ramirez is telling the truth, hoover, okay? we will give her the benefit of the doubt that she is telling the truth and that someone in the miss san antonio hierarchy said look, you can t get into your original costume because you have had a few too many eskimo bars. you can t be a contestant anymore. impossible. bill: stop it, stop it let s assume what she is saying is true. is that fair or untrue? gretchen is the authority on pageants here. bill: we re assuming the woman is telling the truth? we re giving her the benefit of the doubt. she may be lying but we are not