october 2020, we reported here on this show on something that we first learned about from one of the great historic, gigantic radio stations in the united states, the michigan behemoth, wwj radio in detroit, michigan. wwj has been on the air for more than 100 years. they re just a huge deal in american broadcasting history. they are still on the air today. they are still a big deal today. and just about exactly two years ago, october 2020, we learned about a story that was broken by a reporter at wwj named sandra mcneill. she had gotten a tip from a listener to wwj in detroit. the listener told her that they received a really, really sketchy robocall about the november 2020 presidential election. now, as we all know, basically every robocall is sketchy, right? robocalls by definition are shady and annoying and almost always scammy, right? everybody knows that. but this one that this detroit resident got before the 2020 election. this one was so bad. it not only seemed worse t
we first learned about from one of the great historic, gigantic radio stations in the united states, the michigan behemoth, wwj radio in detroit, michigan. wwj has been on the air for more than 100 years. they re just a huge deal in american broadcasting history. they are still on the air today. they are still a big deal today. and just about exactly two years ago, october 2020, we learned about a story that was broken by a reporter at wwj named sandra mcneill. she had gotten a tip from a listener to wwj in detroit. the listener told her that they received a really, really sketchy robocall about the november 2020 presidential election. now, as we all know, basically every robocall is sketchy, right? robocalls by definition are shady and annoying and almost always scammy, right? everybody knows that. but this one that this detroit resident got before the 2020 election. this one was so bad. it not only seemed worse than your typical robocall. it seemed so bad, it seemed like it
what do you make of the communications? i will say this. these reports about the russian defense minister suddenly calling all. his counter parts. in the united states and in other countries. unnerved me because it is an uncharacteristic action for him and i feel like predictability is a blessing when you re dealing with someone making the kinds of crazy threats that putin has been making implicitly and explicitly. i m worried about those calls. and that russia may be implicitly telling the world they may do that kind of he is xlags involves a radioactive attack. do you think there s reason to worry about that? do you think they see it as an advantage? escalate to de-escalate. it always a scary thing. we think about that with tactical weapons.
And history has shown us that trying to negotiate with a dictator, much less a totalitarian inclined dictator who doesn t abide by any agreements he makes, bad idea. what do you make of the communications? i will say this. these reports about the russian defense minister suddenly calling all. his counter parts. in the united states and in other countries. unnerved me because it is an uncharacteristic action for him and i feel like predictability is a blessing when you re dealing with someone making the kinds of crazy threats that putin has been making implicitly and explicitly. i m worried about those calls. and that russia may be implicitly telling the world they may do that kind of escalation that involves a radioactive attack. do you think there s reason to worry about that? do you think they see it as an advantage? escalate to de-escalate. it always a scary thing.
He s got to be wild about the failure of all of these miscalculations and things that are not working. so what does he do? the history is in chechnya and syria, he bombs, he attacks civilians, he increases the pressure on the civilians in order to try to bring pressure on the government or whatever group he s trying to destroy. so that s one possibility. and we re already seeing that. the other, of course, that we don t like to talk about is nuclear weapons. and it s important to realize that russia has a different view of nuclear weapons than we do, more than anybody else in the world. they view nuclears weapons as part of their stockpile of weapons to use in a conflict. and they actually have a doctrine which i m sure you re familiar with called escalate to de-escalate. the idea if losing on the battlefield, raise the stakes by using tactical nuclear weapons