Ukraine, these are countries not part of the nato. it has not attacked nato countries for you can also argue the countries attacked were part of russia. well were part of the soviet union. i firmly disagree with that proposition. it is the fundamental right of these countries to decide their own future. but i m saying that the countries that have been attacked, georgia and ukraine, were part of the soviet union. and they were part of the soviet union since the 1920s. but that does not give russia the right to attack them on the contrary. no one says it does. but being part of this empire by force, when everything came to a head, it is abundantly clear until president putin s own words that this was never about ukraine being potentially part of nato. it was always about his belief that ukraine does not deserve to be a sovereign independent country. that is must be resumed into russia in one form or another.