materializing, not just in terms of the baseless claims of widespread fraud, but also that we re going to undo this, we have this path and this path and this path. by the time you get to the beginning of january in 2021, you are days away from the electoral college vote being certified in favor of joe biden and you have a vice president, mike pence, making clear he does not have the legal authority that trump s allies were claiming he did, and those texts lay out clearly there are others, looking at that landscape and saying this is just not real. not real, and potentially dangerous, because roy and mike lee, leading up to january 6th, telling mark meadows repeatedly, this is a really bad idea. this is really bad for the country. mark meadows can t argue that no one warned him. yeah, i mean, i was struck by that too. it is not just that they knew there wasn t any evidence, but that they feared that this would pose a threat to american democracy itself. they understood that by pushi