with us now tom dupree. let s start with this new cnn exclusive information about kenneth chesebro. he has been charged in this case with seven different counts in trump s 2020 election tampering case in georgia. could this new information showing that he was on capitol grounds during the january 6th capitol attack have or make a difference in the case against him or donald trump? well, it could make a difference if they can show that he had some sort of active participation in the events of january 6th, in other words, if he was there, he was helping coordinate and that sort of thing, which it sounds like we may not quite have yet. look, there s no question that it certainly places him more at the center of events. it makes it difficult for him to argue that he was an innocent bystander or just a mere witness to the events that occurred if he was actually there following people around, hanging out with alex jones and that sort of thing. it s not the place that you want to be caught