anti-vax personalities and radio host claim that it would be far better for instance, for your children, to get measles than to get the am and our vaccine. so this is not an effect gia. it s not necessarily a new idea in the context of a pandemic. some of these folks have been making this claim really since covid-19 appeared. people who are an anti vax radio show host urged his viewers, last june, to go out and ask you put it get this cold. so this is a common talking point, and it dangerous. one i mean, what i think is clarifying about, it is that in some ways it reaches to me the ideological bedrock. because i have a very hard time understanding or empathizing with this view. which i think has been one of the most deadly views that i ve seen propagated in my time in public life. they said 150,000 people who have died from this virus. but, when it comes to us basically kind of the social darwinism.