also seeing the health secretary seeing a hospital this morning being tackled by an anaesthesiologist there and saying that he doesn t want to have a vaccine because he believes that he has got antibodies that he s been antibody check. it must ve been an extremely uncomfortable conversation for the help secretary to have. you are to have any nurses with the mandating of vaccines are feeling a similar way. that is yet another straw that is broken the camels back. i don t have the answer to that. because if i was in the hospital i would very much like to know that everybody treated me had been vaccinated. equally there is a lot of evidence that mandating doesn t necessarily help the uptake, you might be forcing people like this exit is that they talk about to leave the health services. so really, really difficult situation. edi health services. so really, really difficult situation.