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They said it was very different and i think it partly depends on a matter of perspective. These guys think what theyre doing is different in intent to the common core and they can give you chapter and verse. Nothing feels like it has changed. You mentioned universities are buffered. The only way that the teacher prep programs are going to fill urgency about changing anything is the people who are taking a graduate insist on what they need. As long as we take High School Math teachers who are poorly trained and is so long as we take folks who dont know how to, it is hard to actually generate the leverage internally to fundamentally change what they do. I think again this is just if you think about the common core, chris said a few moments ago there are just words on paper and then i matter. I think about the Mission Statement at mcdonalds or any fast food restaurant. They ....