how real is that or how much of that is just from our movies? at the moment, it s from movies. today, the important thing about ai is it does not have its own volition. it still requires humans to tell it what to look for. in other words, it doesn t have its own independent creative judgment. it can t say, i want to study physics or do art. it can be told to do physics and told to do art, but it can t decide it on its own. many people think that we will cross that boundary and at the point when the system can decide what it wants to work on, it s a whole new ball game. most of your background is in technology and the sort of initially started off or early tech space. a lot of your peers are very proud of those results and tend to be quite dismissive of government or public sector or other older models. i m curious, your take on that and specifically, is there