And there was security and communicative failings prior to it. but there was no cover-up there have been many, many hearing on it, much exposure about it, and to call it a scandal is much ado about nothing. same thing with the irs scandal. people need to understand this. there is no scandal there. the same people that are being accused of using key words to try to find conservative groups were using key words to try to find liberal and progressive groups. and it was the liberal and the progressive states getting denied status. no conservative groups were denied status. the thing about this that is different from the movie, though, reverend al, is in the movie, eventually bill murray realizes he has to make some changes so he doesn t get caught in the same loop of ignorance of his life. the republicans are not following that script so well right now. you know, dana, bill o reilly also asked the president about visits the irs commissioner made to the white house. listen to this. doug
Members, more than any other irs guy in the history so far. why was douglas schulman here 157 times? why? mr. schulman as head the irs because we were trying to set up healthcare.gov. now, first of all, 76% of the meetings the irs commissioner was cleared to attend at the white house involved the health care law. and it s only confirmed that he signed in for 11 events. i mean, doesn t that poke some kind of hole in the theory that he was there all is the time, plotting against conservatives? i mean, dana, are we really to believe that the president of the united states himself would be sitting, plotting against right wing groups with the head of the irs? i mean, what are we talking about? yeah, this came up a year ago in the middle of all this. and it was answered at the time. of course, when you say
0 it s like a saturday night live skit. it doesn t seem like something that would really happen. all the reverse is true. he is deceptive. he is tricky. maybe they hired him to do deceptive and tricky things. right. that s a good point. which is why they need to be very careful. but brian, what kind of guy is he? you said you didn t know him, but you worked for him. but you certainly know his representation. you know people that deal with him. can he handle christie and the administration or can they handle him? i think he is a details guy. and he is a guy who saves a lot of paper. and i think he is a very dangerous enemy to make. i think it s dangerous enemy to make? why? because he is signalling in the letter that his lawyers sent i think that he knows that there is certain evidence that implicates the governor in this, that he may have evidence that implicates port authority commissioners and things that they shouldn t have been involved in at the port authority. i thi
For the scandal and for the targeting. when you go back to lois lerner s history at the irs and her work at the fec. and her own we have had people running for office saying she initially almost bribed them in order toth have them drop out of the race when she was at the fec. she is also forgetting former irs commissioner douglas schulman who visited the white house 150 times during his tenure at the irs. he lied and said nothing is going on when we know for years it was going on. martha: she says perhaps the fec will save the day in a battle between the fec and the tax exempt part tea exarty groups in this case. we ll see where it goes from here. thank you.
is standing by. reporter: we were talking about lions as this flooding began because it became isolated quite quickly. the national guard is trying to get people out of the town of lions. it s north of boulder. but the problem is the roads are washed out. they weren t able to get helicopters up because of the rain. it cleared up enough they will be able to get into the area to get people out. the sewage treatment plant has been affected, they don t have freshwater there. they have been trying to perform rescues throughout the night and throughout yesterday. it has been quite devastating. especially with the small mountaintowns that have been cut off by the rushing water. here are a couple of residents who have been impacted in the town of lions. we are shocked at all this. we never seen the water up to the tracks. you have to let it flow and hope it keeps flowing in the right direction. reporter: it s not just the mountain towns. in the denver metro area the rain has