watch how president biden reacted to that. the members of this community were singled out because of their religious affiliation. now three young children are dead. three educators are dead. you believe that christians were targeted? i have no idea. josh hawley believes they were. what to you say to that? i probably don t then. i m joking. i have no idea. martha: well, laugh about that and saying that if that s what josh hawley thinks, he probably disagrees. we ll get into that with katie pavlich and fox news contributor and geraldo rivera, co-host of the five and fox news correspondent at large. great to have you with us right now. katie, let me start with you. what did you think of that response from the president in that sound bite? well, it came after the president s first response to this horrific situation when he talked about ice cream at the white house during his first remarks about this situation. so i think it shows that he s clearly more interest
celebrate the graduates of that university. we ll see what happens. i do want to ask you, jonathan, about what you think is going on with this trump grand jury here in new york city. they seem to be welcoming opportunities to kind of drag this out a little bit. makes me wonder if they re losing steam. a grand jury version of hamlet. continual debate to be or not to be. i don t know what to make of it. a lot of speculation. many democrats have been calling openly for bragg to abandon the case or delay it because it s transparently political. the claim being advanced for this potential indictment. in my view, it s legally pathetic. it s really something that is raw partisan prosecution. for that reason, many democrats have said why don t you wait, let georgia to first or one of these other cases. you know, it s hard to tell what s going on.