They are also spooked by rising crime and they want more policing in the neighborhoods. i think it s how you tell people. so you know, people across the board believe in provincial. every time we pull people there like yes we want to put the money somewhere else. people don t want the police to hurt them. so if you pull any type of restricting use of force, or oversight and accountability, or any type of demilitarization, if you pull any of the discreet things, uniquely across the board every time. there s few things we don t win on, and we rarely you ban chokeholds, then people will, you, know we won t be able to stop crime. and community members don t get, that but you d be surprised at how effective that can be sometimes. let me toss your hypothetical. if you had a chance to re-brand defund the police and not use that phrase, what would you call it? how do you explain it?