good evening, everyone. welcome to cnn tonight. former vice president mike pence has been subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating donald trump to testify about his former boss. a special counsel seeking information from pence about his interactions with donald trump leading up to the election and what happened on january 6th. [ chanting ] nothing like that or like this has ever happened before. plus, the latest installment of the george santos soap on that raffle we have new info involving puppies, amish dog breeders and $15,000 worth of bad checks. and what liberals can learn from ron desantis. there s a piece in the new york time that warns liberals not to underestimate desantis. he may resemble trump but not in his intellect or resolve. right to the news. with me in studio, we have natasha, former assistant special watergate prosecutor nick ackerman and john berman. seamless, people. seamless. you walked all the way over here. across a bridge, everyone. gre
is accustomed to this being an open secret. to this being something that you don t really talk about in polite company. she looked in a way that sort of asked people to remark on it. and we re not used to being put in that position. john, do you have thoughts? look. i m on team natasha here. i ve co-authored a lot of shows with women before. one of the thing i would notice, i would get roughly zero comments ever about how i look. and i look bad a lot of the time. impossible! but my point is the people i was sitting next to, the things said about them were shocking. for some reason people feel entitled to pass judgment whenever they want. whether it is justified or not on how a woman looks. what she wears. what her hair is doing. that creates, i think, a perceived need by some people. by some women to do certain
republicans when they ve had enough? i think again, we have to take a step back. i think all the accusations in isolation by themselves are probably horrendous. the compound impact of them should shock the conscience. unfortunately, and i say that in a very serious way, we are a nation of laws. that means that you are in this country innocent until proven guilty. i would not sit back here and say i want to sit back and sign up for defense of george santos but that still has to mean something. until he s been indicted, until he s been convicted of a crime, the notion that we start removing members of congress by virtue of allegation is a slippery slope. so the breaking point would be conviction. i think that is the precedent that already exists. there are certainly members who have not had the litany but when you have members of congress that get indicted, certainly convicted, that s when they end up heading off to the proverbial
appearance, meaning her physical appearance at the grammys, has inspired such strong thoughts from people? reporter: well, i think that women as they age are really in a double bind. if she had looked old, we would be saying she looks older, she looks tired. what s going on there? and instead, she showed up having a very different face than people were used to seeing her wear. and people aren t liking that either. so i think that it is really a double bind and a tough situation for female celebrities to be in as they age. i see it a little differently. i see it a little bit, the way i see anorexia. which is, it s like body dismorphia. when you see somebody like that, you think, is she not seeing what we re seeing? when she looks in the mirror, what does she see? that s why i found it a little jarring. because she didn t look recognizable and i think we re
this is happened before where they think that a female is isolated, but she is feeling a little amorous, the fellow primate next door gets a sense of that and he is a way to get to point a to point b. except he has a way to get only one body part from point a to point b that s only needs. you are right. i m thinking of the given, i m thinking of a number two pencil eraser, and that s about all you need to pull this off. that is really visual, thank you for that. we should just let everybody know that after two years of investigating, as you did a paternity test because she got pregnant and had the champ. they did a paternity test on the baby and the mom, and they found out, as you say, that the guy next door there was a small hole between the enclosures and, like you said, it s a story of