Interpret that it s the same thing? joe: because he s not a communications guy. trish: you don t make those mistakes of talking to a reporter on the record when you mean to be off. joe: i m calling karen hughes. she was a reporter when she first started out, she then became white house communications director years and years later, she s a texas girl, she s tough as a two dollar steak and she can coordinate the tillerson s and the kelly s and everybody else who is involved and get them on the same page. they need to fill that position. marie: statements like that, given the sensitivity lisa: secretary mattis echoed the exact same sentiment. sandra: as a fiery thursday thursday. president trump firing back in a tense phone call with mitch mcconnell after he accused him