we are negotiating. you have to communicate with them. $3.5 trillion, then there is an invention in the past 10 days of saying we can t go there. laura: but how much? democrats seem a little bit in disarray with president biden s agenda on the line, senator christensen about told president biden she is not there on the massive tax and spend plan. president biden met with senator joe manchin, didn t win him over and utah senator mike lee. i always think nancy pelosi and schumer are extremely crafty, extremely experienced, they will get to a dollar figure summer, maybe not $3.5 trillion but they know it is do or die for president biden. what are your thoughts? probably right. a lot of people in washington dc