more sanctions, which is what he has been doing so far. as we all have seen from afghanistan, to iran, russia, sanctions, they are a limited value and it s unclear whether there s collective will in europe to be as tough on the sanctions part of policy as they could be. i was just wondering, you covered the pentagon. let s say the u.s. military in the past has talked about a minor incursion into somewhere. what is a minor incursion normally mean? right. it s an insane thing to even say. i can t believe it came out of my mouth, because ukraine is a sovereign entity. there s no such thing as a minor incursion, but when we re talking about it in this case, we re talking about maybe just focusing on its doingbas region,