But there s something else here that white house is starting to slowly talk about behind closed doors for a few days. now, we had the president say out loud yesterday, what happens next? president biden at a fundraiser outside of d.c. last night talked about the state of the war. i ll quote this now. he said that putin is a very calculating man, and the problem the president now worries about is that the russian leader, quote, doesn t have a way out right now. and i m trying to figure out what we do about that. this is that idea that is the perplexing problem of what is the off-ramp here? what is the way they can get putin to call off this assault without, of course, givingvicto. we know the ukrainians aren t inclined to give an inch of territory. this is the question, how to get putin to stop. what sort of off-ramp, way out can you give him? yeah, it s been this question for weeks now when it became clear russia wasn t going to have an easy time with ukraine.