then we were divided in 2020. so, the way i would go about it is very direct and very simple. that there is no bad opinion. you want to express your opinion in this country, express it i want to hear. and then everybody gets a round table and resolve our issues. one of the time. the same way we used to do at dinner parties for the last eight or ten years. it wasn t like there weren t political differences to discuss. it s just that people did not start throwing their cutlery and it was a little more civilized. and it was not as if our democracy was at stake. see, in the end if you make everything a crisis, and it will be. and i heard the president today, joe biden earlier today talking about how he was concerned about democracy of donald trump getting elected again. and then i heard donald trump yelling and screaming about how badly he s been treated, these two guys need to stop worrying so much about themselves and start worrying about you. my approach to being president wou
to this that is not constructive in our country. joe biden looked all of us in the eye in 2020 and said, elect me and i ll bring us together. and then he ran far left and abandoned most of the country philosophically. so, how could he be the uniter in a second term? a second term all he ll do is keep doing what he s doing, which is dividing the country even more than we were divided in 2020. so, the way i would go about it is very direct and very simple, that there is no bad opinion. you want to express your opinion in this country, express it. i want to hear it. and then everybody gets around the table and resolves our issues one at a time. the same way we used to do at dinner parties before the last eight or ten years. wasn t like there weren t political differences discussed. it s just people didn t start throwing the cutlery. it was a little more civilized. and it wasn t as if our democracy was at stake. see, in the end, if you make everything a crisis, then it will be. a
Prepared, erin. well, shimon, thank you very much. jake, it is amazing, right, they just didn t have much warning. so, you know, you see right now, you don t see a lot of security, but you could see tens of thousands of people there tomorrow. not difficult to imagine, unfortunately. joining us here at the table, doctor donell harvin, former chief of homeland security for washington, d.c., along with john king, jamie gangel, elie honig. and i know we have a lot of questions for you. so, i will take to, and i ll let everybody else ask questions about your expertise. because obviously, just for people who don t know, you are sounding the alarms from homeland security for d.c. before january 6th. and sadly, a lot of your alarms were unheeded. the rhetoric online that we re seeing now, that we re hearing now, not just online, but you know, publicly from members of congress, et cetera, how does it compare with what you saw on january 6th? so, currently what we re seeing is not the volu
Us in this business is that there are individuals in positions of public trust, law enforcement, military, police chiefs, that were actually on that list. so, what we re combatting right now behind the scenes is radicalization actually within the ranks of law enforcement, retired military, and current military. i will also tell you that when i was in a position of monitoring these groups, the oath keepers and proud boys weren t our biggest threat, right. there are groups out there that you have not heard about that we will not talk about in this program that are far more dangerous, far more prepared, and they re not going to go out there and show themselves until it s time to mobilize. and my concern is when donald trump says see you in miami, when kari lake says you know, you re gonna have to go through 70 plus million americans with guns, right, that s the call they ve been waiting for for decades. they ve been arming for decades, ever since waco and ruby ridge, and this may be their
Enforcement, military, police chiefs, that were actually on that list. so, what we re combatting right now behind the scenes is radicalization actually within the ranks of law enforcement, retired military, and current military. i will also tell you that when i was in a position of monitoring these groups, the oath keepers and proud boys weren t our biggest threat, right. there are groups out there that you have not heard about that we will not talk about in this program that are far more dangerous, far more prepared, and they re not going to go out there and show themselves until it s time to mobilize. and my concern is when donald trump says see you in miami, when kari lake says you know, you re gonna have to go through 70 plus million americans with guns, right, that s the call they ve been waiting for for decades. they ve been arming for decades, ever since waco and ruby ridge, and this may be their trigger. you donell harvin, thank you so much, really appreciate it. coming up ne