And antonin scalia founded the society. there is no mystery about what conservatives want. it is just only with president trump s three appointments that they ve had the votes. they want to end affirmative action. they want to end any sorts of gun control laws under the second aeld. and as we see from the draft opinion yesterday, they want to overturn roe v. wade. but that leads to issues like contraception. remember, the supreme court has already in the hobby lobby case said, some forms of contraception are like abortion and they can be banned as well. so this is the way the law works. once you do one big step like roe v. wade, like overturning roe v. wade, lots of other things come in behind it. and we know where they re coming because conservatives haven t been hiding their agenda for decades. you know, there is apparently no realistic path for congress
Leaked i think it just reaffirms that kevin mccarthy was saying that keep concern what then president trump had done, about what his behavior would do to the country and certainly with the republican conference. they were looking much more broadly about leadership and what he would be able to do and what it would mean over the remaining two weeks of his presidency. you contrast that with what we saw him doing almost immediately after president trump left office, which was start trying to make amends. so you have to wonder in hindsight how much of that amends making was his knowledge that he had been saying all of these things to his colleagues. i doubt he knew they were on tape. what does it say to you, governor kasich, that someone who called trump s actions, atrocious and totally wrong, could change his mind so quickly? it seems to be a matter of character, wolf. you know, i was in congress at a time when you looked around
Around you saw people who were more concerned about the country than their own careers. everybody cares about their careers, but it was always country first. what we re seeing here, it s a character issue. how could you say how terrible this is and turn around a few days later and say, well, january 6th was no big deal. it s extremely disappointing. and back in the old days, not that long ago, things like this, tapes like this could be damaging to somebody. but it doesn t seem as though these days it matters very much. it s interesting, maggie, this isn t the first audio leak of kevin mccarthy disparaging trump. why is he still in the form e president s good graces apparently? a couple of reasons. the main one that s gotten overlooked is trump is aware that anything that he does, you know, responds or says something, adds to stories and news reports about the republicans being at each other s throats, which is not
What republicans want as they head into the midterms, especially frankly now with the backdrop of roe v. wade potential ending. so the former president is holding his fire, which we ve seen him do before until he doesn t. i don t know that this means that kevin mccarthy is permanently safe. they met for three hours earlier this week. trump kept referring to kevin mccarthy as speaker mccarthy as he talked to people by phone. that s fine for now. i just don t know what happens when we get to december. yeah. wolf, let me jump in very quickly. maggie, you would agree with me that where donald trump is today and where he will be tomorrow, it doesn t matter to him. he could appear to be supporting kevin mccarthy today and tomorrow he ll give him the heave-ho and throw him outside the capitol. so you can t count on loyalty when it comes to donald trump. not possible to do. john kasich and maggie
don t do, it i don t know about that, because tonight in a tweet, matt gates this grab the majority leader calls as sniffling, and he accused mccarthy of disparaging trump and the republicans in congress to fight for him. not surprisingly, the states have also caught the attention of the committee member jeremy thompson. mccarthy has refused the panels request for an interview, but thompson says he will be asked yet again. of course, mccarthy is made it abundantly clear, he wants to be how speaker. should republicans win the majority in november. well tonight, reporters asked of these new tapes would hurt his chances. and mccarthy gave a one word answer, no. with that, let s bring in our experts and find out what they think. former missouri senator and