system here because there is significant remedies on the civil side of this investigation we ve seen, you know, the new york attorney general dismantle trump s charitable organization and prohibit it from further operations in new york. that s not an insignificant penalty at the same time the allegations of fraud if evidence of intent and knowledge pans out, they could lead to criminal charges but could is doing a lot of work in that sentence. yeah, indeed. my favorite sort of fact about this eric trump taking 500 times, taking the fifth once an hour almost in hundreds of hours of questioning. very interesting. joyce vance, thank you. appreciate it. tonight s absolute worst is still ahead but secretary of state blinken meets with the ukrainian president as russia continues the buildup along ukraine s border. is there still a diplomatic path forward? chris murphy is back from the region and joins me next. don t go anywhere. region and joins me next don t go anywhere.
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