go so far as to categorize his position on same-sex marriage as one that was in the process of evolving. whether gays and lesbians should be able to get married, i ve spoken about this recently, as i ve said. my feelings about this are constantly evolving. i struggle with this. you ve said your position is evolving. you said you re struggling with it. what more do you need to know? well, you know, i probably won t make news right now, george, but i think there s no doubt that as i see friends, families, children of gay couples who are thriving, you know, that has an impact on how i think about these issues. again, what i know is what his position was during the campaign and what it is now. you know, he s been very clear about it, he was very clear in the campaign, he s very clear about the fact that his position that it s evolving. the president said that he was evolving. in explaining that process of evolving today, the president said he has always been adamant t