In other words we would get over $4 trillion over that ten-year period? it would be more than the $4 trillion that a lot of people talked about, right? yes, that s right. it s a great byte. chris van holland from maryland making an important point. is that basically because of the way, because of a number of things, the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but also changes to the alternative minimum tax, which congress is constantly passing patches to, the so-called medicare dock fix which also is a way of avoiding what are statutory diminishments in the amount of pay that doctors gets from medicare, which are also habitually fixed. which if congress didn t do anything, if you took it away, if you let it expire, the deficit fixes itself. which is an important grounding, that sound byte for all deficit conversations you hear. about taxes, what i was saying before about filing them. why, why is the system feel so complex? the conservative argument for this is because governments