past going back to the 2014 forcible annexation of crimea using cyber as a weapon to help them achieve their goals by shutting down electric grids in 2015-2016, releasing the most damaging software bug the world has ever seen, the computer virus in 2017 aimed at ukraine. we know what they can do in the world of cyber in terms of cyber attacks and causing harm and then the other piece of this which we ve already alluded to in your program, pamela, the disinformation piece. both are concerted and coordinated in reinforcing they each reinforce the other and it s part of an integrated campaign that vladimir putin can be engaged in. the u.s. dgovernment there could be cyber attacks if russia invades ukraine as retaliation for american sanctions. what do you think that could