Government and in this company and people who observe this industry saying that is no guarantee of safety. we ve seen how israel used this to empower other countries around the world and dolled out this technology for this company and we ve seen how the quite like in that example i gave used the same tactic. we in the same way once offered all kinds of development assistance building wells, building roads. we re also now at times helping countries procure spyware and ukraine wanted to get this. it say powerful tool in the confrontation like the one they re in now and israel didn t want to ruffle the feathers of the russian authorities. that s scary. i m looking at my phone now giving it the side way. for people afraid of this software and afraid your phone will be turned on you, how do you protect yourself from it? well, one of the take aways from this is, joy, if someone