assault with the deadly weapon, salt on a police officer, trespassing, possession of a stolen vehicle. this alleged murder of brianna kupfer, how does it happen? it s amazing. emily: criminal justice or the concept of such is the chain and it requires that every link is interconnected and supportive and every link does its job. an arrest is worthless without a consequence, without prosecution. oh prosecution is worthless without the deterrent incarceration, penalty. the incarceration is worthless without post incarceration programs. when no one is doing their job, law enforcement doesn t have the support. das aren t prosecuting. then everything breaks down and that s why we get the totality of circumstances that leads to an utter lack of justice and an utter presence of violence. joe: you read this report and you see the suspect was