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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:05:00

jamie had already been taking away in the ambulance, when detective chris reynolds with the chester county sheriff s, office arrived on the scene. i actually took my flashlight, in looked, and in saw a cloth with blood on it. and blood on the seat. the detective saw the jeep s door open, where judy had apparently been ejected. what is your first instinct of this scene? this accident. it s until proven something else, it is an accident. that same night, judy s two sons, josh and chris, each got late night phone calls. they were only told their mom had been in a car crash and they needed to get to the hospital right away. i was the first one there, and i run into the emergency side, and i was like where is julia, and they said we don t have a duty. and i said is jaime baldwin

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:16:00

One of them was broken. i got a rug. and i cleaned her up. and it was bleeding that. jamie told the detective, he grabbed a washcloth from the bathroom, to put pressure on the wound. but the bleeding did not stop. he thought judy needed stitches. i was like, i got to take you to the hospital. and she looked at me and said i am not going to chester. she hated gesture hospital. although chester hospital was a few minutes from their house. he said the couple got into their jeep, and started driving to a bigger hospital, 30 minutes away.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:14:00

yes, extremely happy. and when she s, happy i m extremely happy. detective chris reynolds, who knew her personally, was looking into her death as part of a routine investigation. i knew miss judy for a very long time, since i was a child. did you laker? oh yes, everybody loved her. the detective had never met judy s husband. but wanted more details, on what happened that night. so about a week after her, death he asked jaime to come down to the sheriff s office. why do you bring him in, even though you believe this is

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:37:00

Coroner told a detective that he thought judy s death looked suspicious, that it might even be a homicide. wouldn t you, being overly cautious, as a detective, say, we should do a little more here, we should get evidence, even if it s not a murder, at least we have it, and we did our job. we don t need it, let s get. it i agree, 100%. those photos the detective took inside of judy s house, this is how a number of them came out. some of them were so blurry and bad. yeah, the camera we had wasn t good at the time. even if the cameras not that good, you can still take those shots. i struggle with the camera we have. he also filled to collect critical forensic evidence. did you say to your supervisor, i think we should have somebody look at this blood? no, i didn t. do you think you should ve done that? absolutely, i ve never denied that.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 06:35:00

that s when we re thinking, police is going to get on something. this somebody is looking into this. the brothers had been pushing the chester county prosecutor s office to look deeper into their mom s death. in fact, dq beauty prosecutor, candace lively, was keeping tabs on the sheriff investigation. we re being told to the sheriff s office that they were doing what they were supposed to do. turns out, they weren t. the prosecutor would learn that there were serious problems with the sheriff s investigation. they re basically saying, we got this, we don t need your help right now. exactly. and, we were hearing from the family that people hadn t been interviewed yet, they were considered evidence hadn t been collected. chris reynolds said that he truly believed that it was an accident. so, he just didn t feel the

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