get them to cooperate. so we know that right now the situation in mariupol is dire. and we know that russia is deliberately not allowing evacuation from mariupol, because for them, killing in destroying the city, destroying avoztvaz, which they say is neo-nazi, is a priority. so the situation is very bad. i just relate a story, actually, from veronika melkozerova, about some of the stories we re talking about. filtration. we can really use that word of me when i was in ukraine, i thought it was when he would water filtration. i didn t realize that what they meant was, human filtration. they are trying to figure out whether somebody is an enemy or a friends, and determining what their fate is, it is kind of remarkable that is what is happening. alexei thank you for your constant reporting on this. alexei is a political editor and chief editor for the kyiv independent. next up, my interview with