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Transcripts For MSNBCW MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191209 19:00:00

Dispute. Now turning attention to the ron johnson letter if i may. Yes. On august 31st, Senator Johnson is getting ready to travel to ukraine on September 5th with senator with murphy. And he wanted johnson wanted the aid released so he calls the president and sought permission to be the bearer of good news. Right. The president said im not ready to lift the aid. They had this Senator Johnson, he writes a tenpage letter, very detailed, and he gives some remarkable detail and i would like to read it. Its on page 6. I this is Senator Johnson speaking, he said i asked him whether there was some kind of arran arrangement where ukraine would take some action and the hold would be lifted. Without hesitation, Senator Johnson says, President Trump immediately denied such an arrangement existed and he started cursing. He said, no way. President trump said no way. I would never do that. Who told you that . And Senator Johnson goes on to say that President Trumps reactionnt here was adamant, vehe

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191209 19:39:00

usually it works the reverse. you t don t announce the investigation becausedo you wan to develop as much evidence while it s not while it s not public. because if it s public, then you run into problems of people matchingof up testimony and witnessesp tailoring their testimony, which is part of the reason why theim closed depositions in our investigation were so important. so what did that evidence, this evidence about the announcement, tell you about why president trump would only care about president zelensky announcing the investigations but not actually conducting them? there were two things that it said. one is, whatever he claims the president claims about his desireis to root out corruption even if you assume that these investigations are for that purpose as he has stated, it undermines that because he doesn t actually care if thet investigations are done. even if you assume, which i don t think the evidence supports, it s corruption, then he s still not doing the corru

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