Carrie, about it being a streamlined indictment, my understanding from justice sources is they are going to try to move this as quickly as possible and go to trial before the election. whether or not that happens, whole other thing. but that is the goal. there s a reason why in the criminal justice system presidents are not in the cross hairs per se. that is because it is dealt with constitutionally through congress, through the impeachment process. we have to remember he was impeached for this very thing. he didn t get convicted by the senate, but the house did impeach him. i think that s probably why going back to right after this happened there was some trepidation inside the doj about making this a criminal matter, but now it is. now what we re seeing is many people are numb to the fact that he s getting indicted three times in four months. but this is the only one that
i agree. but listen, i also agree, i m hearing more and more from republicans, people that i know well, that i trust, who are questioning some of the decisions by the department of justice in that they really do view some of the decisions as to be favored favoritism toward this administration, and i think that s that s dangerous. you know, obviously whether or not, as john bolton i think rightly put it, the fact that hunter biden might get a sweetheart deal doesn t mean that donald trump should get a pass. i think both should be held fully people should have confidence in the decisions at the department of justice that are not biased in any way and that people are held accountable for their conduct. attorney general alberto gonzales, thank you so much. as we can see, the motorcade containing the 45th president of the united states as he proceeds
You know, it s it s unprecedented. people have talked about this as momentous, unprecedented. and it certainly is. but from my perspective, what i m most worried about is the fact that, gosh, all of the rhetoric that s out there today in my judgment, the attacks against the department of justice, the attacks against the rule of law, i think it s very, very dangerous. and i m hopeful that we can get our leaders to step up and tell people to calm down, if they re going to communicate with each other, do it with civility and respect, and try to come to an understanding. the defense has an opportunity to present its side of the story. jack smith will have an opportunity to present the side of the prosecution. and then we ll see what happens before a jury of president trump s peers. and just to be clear, those attacks, the rhetorical attacks, are coming from the defendant, and they re coming from house repub republicans. even members of the house republican leadership.
Came in through these very hallways. and just the location of it is obviously trump is complaining about the venue and why he thinks he can t get a fair trial. he obviously has seen how many of those convictions have happened and how important it was to the justice department. absolutely. many people have been sentenced to jail time. and judge chutkin, who will oversee the case, has statistically handed some of the more serious punishments to people. at least nine times she s gone beyond what prosecutors were recommending. right now the magistrate judge, not only is she reading the charges that have been filed against the former president, she s also informing him of the maximum sentence. a reminder that conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, a maximum of 20 years. obstruction of an official proceeding, 20 years. conspiracy against rights, ten years. now these are, of course, maximums. it s a very complicated formula, as you know, in terms of the ultimate sentence. but it is
Co-conspirators are, from the justice department, the reporting can speculate about who they are. but from the justice department, they are not named as co-conspirators. i think that matters in terms of how the country understands that this wasn t just about the former president, this was a plot, this was a plot by numerous individuals who were lawyers, who were advisers, who worked together with the former president, the justice department alleges, to overturn the outcome of the rightful election. and george conway, the other big difference between this and the fudging of business records to hire up the hush-money payment to stormy daniels in new york and the classified documents case is there are 330 million americans who witnessed a lot of this take place on television. now obviously we didn t know the extent of the conspiracy, especially when it came to the fake electors plot. but we did see a lot of it. how strong do you think the case is? i think the case is extremely strong.