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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:33:00

Much to avoid contempt unlike maybe steve bannon but i don t think that we have seen anything akin to full cooperation and i also true about stephen miller s testimony today. maybe he told the truth. the committee singled him out for a role in this slate of electors theory. mill every thinks he is a lawyer yet knows nothing about the law. he knows squat about it. always attracted to the most bogus interpretation of the law particularly to enhance donald trump s powers. he s exactly the guy that james madison in federalist 51 warned against. a man not an angel. he is the guy who tried to keep the phone records secretz from the committee for a long time and the rational is that he was on a family plan and the search

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:36:00

Some actual testimony s important. this is why i think the justice department s grand jury investigation that betsy and others reported on is so significant because live testimony under a threat of perjury is a different animal than getting documents. yeah ji ll ask you both to stick around. donald trump made us do it. that s the ark. in front of a jury whether those that charge the capitol did so because the twice impeached ex-president told them to. how the jury reacted to that is next.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:18:00

That that s because whatever he was getting was better than whatever he s getting out of the war in ukraine. why do you think vladimir putin didn t launch the invasion of ukraine while trump was president? i think he was hoping for a second administration, a second trump administration in which donald trump and john bolton s been pretty on point on this one, donald trump would withdraw from nato, and then there vladimir putin wouldn t have to contend with this notion of a nato response or a concerted response. donald trump would fracture any efforts to cohere around imposing costs on putin. that s what he was hoping for. in reality that didn t happen, so relatively quickly and with the opportunities presented by donald trump not continuing to rabble rouse, continuing to basically bring the republican party to oppose democracy and to sow discord he went for plan b. plan b was pretty straightforward. ukraine continues to slip

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:43:00

Starting at the top of the enterprise with donald trump s attempts to overturn the defeat. in the context of two probes starting to touch and in some ways spark if you will, this is something congressman raskin said in the washington post yesterday. we have not been shy about criminal evidence encountered and the report will have profuse setting forth crimes not yet alleged. what he doesn t say to me is most interesting. there are more crimes. they have more. there s more than we know and what they put in the filings in the eastman cases where the judge said something similar to the judge today. but they keep making clear the evidence is for the prosecutors. we are not prosecutors. what do you make of the ongoing tension between the congressional investigation and

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:09:00

Independent, a large section of ukraine. i said, how smart is that? i d argue that another theory to put on the table, pete struck, is that it s consistent with public pronouncements that guarantee that whatever vladimir putin did in 16 and 20 he ll do tenfold in 2024. no? i absolutely think so. i mean, look, there s been flow president in recent memory who has done more part to the nato alliance and our relationship with our western european allies than donald trump. and you re right, you know, there are all of the quotes, he has steadfastly never been able to criticize vladimir putin in any way, shape, or form. he had not been in office a month when bill o reilly was trying to give him an opportunity to say, look, vladimir putin s a killerment he said, there are lots of killers, we re not so innocent ourselves. you watch conservative television personality after conservative television personality try and lead him to say the simple statement of

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