they have open themselves up. this is kind of like getting in an argument with an irs agent that is investigating or auditing you. things never go well when you go that direction. the department of labor exhibit c says that deficient determined that the employer violated the overtime provisions , paying them straight time for all their hours work and all kinds of other things. they say it went beyond this penny prank. the point is that at the end of the day everything has an actual value. if you were able to about this imply to pay in or the pennies i dunked three tons of horse excrement on your yard. i don t ever want to work for robert. i m scared of how he might try to pay me. i don t know if there is any value to that. you have to accept to that is why the department of labor is stopping them from doing it. shannon: we are going to leave it there and track the cases see which one of you comes on top. this is going all the way.