different level than even we saw after russia took over crimea. so i think that s certainly got the russian s attention, and i think that s one of the reasons that you see vladimir putin wanting this call. there were a series, there are a series of negotiations taking place on january 10th, 12th and 13th, much of those talks happening in geneva, focusing on ukraine and focusing on u.s./russia denuclearization programs, and vladimir putin according to his main spokesman wants to set the agenda before those talks take place, wants to have one more conversation, detailed conversation, remember the last one took about two hours with president biden, so that those talks in early january, mid-january, will go according to putin s plan. he wants to set the agenda for those talks. he wants to make sure that u.s.