tradition. at her age, 95 i think he is, you can t count on future christmases. mike: that s a great point. i guess advanced age, her doctors are probably saying take it easy, but some of the surge blow over. but you are absolutely right, you don t take christmas for granted when you are 95 years old. gillian: she did have a couple health issues earlier in the year, too, now that i m thinking about it. mike: all right, mike: jurors in ghislaine maxwell s trial reviewing the testimony of several women who claimed to have been abused by her ex-boyfriend, jeffrey epstein. a live report live report on where deliberation stands at this hour. gillian: plus, baking is at the southern border. new worries now about terrorism, as agents find someone they call a potential terrorist as the man slipped across the border near yuma. we ve got arizona s attorney general joining us next.