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Transcripts for CNN The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer 20240604 22:10:00

It s not what it was. there s a lot of aggregation by people around giuliani that his legal fees have not been paid by people who are either supporting efforts to fund the defense cases of witnesses, who have been called in the cases, or other entities around trump. i think trump is aware giuliani has been seen by others around trump as a problem. giuliani was blamed by wliet house aides for the first impeachment. he was blamed by white house aides and campaign aides for the second impeachment. it absolves trump of responsibility for his own behavior. i understand why they focus on him. whether that means that giuliani will play a more active role in this investigation, we just don t know, wolf. we know that giuliani appeared before jack smith s prosecutors under a proffer a gregreement, prelude to heading off possible charges. it s not the only way that takes place. his folks have emphasized it was a voluntary interview. ....

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Transcripts for CNN Inside Politics With John King 20240604 16:12:00

Shows he s focused on this issue. he understands the issue completely. i think prosecutors are going to look to the overall weight of this. that s why one thing we have talked about in the past is the obstruction piece of this. the alleged false statements to the justice department, alleged moving and hiding of documents. that goes to the significance of it. if prosecutors were convinced this was an oversight, it wouldn t be prosecuted. i think what has been d demonstrated by that obstruction piece is there s something more going on here. and really i think the focus is going to be for special counsel smith. can you prove had this case even if there s a lot of smoke and mirrors and a lot of very aggressive defense cases. that s where this reporting comes in. it s very difficult to convince a jury to ignore the words of the defendant, and that s what makes this powerful. donald trump in his own wordsed a mutting to something he has denied or tried to fudge. ....

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